Ask the Minister


As the Government drafts the new legislation to transform the public service, we ask Minister Hipkins how it will affect your working lives:

CH: People will still work in the departments or agencies they work in now. Over time they might see more alignment of the terms and conditions of similar jobs across the public service because at the moment we know there is variation.

They’ll find it easier to move between jobs. Now if you switch from a policy advisor job at the DIA to a policy advisor job at the MoE that’s an entirely new employment relationship, you lose your sick leave, you lose your annual leave. The idea is your employment relationship can be continuous across the public service so you will be appointed to the public service, even though you’ll be working  in a particular department and answerable to a chief executive.

Overtime we want to see more collaboration between agencies and to make that easier through basic things like co-locating teams together who are working on a particular topic.

 Will the changes enabling chief executives to bargain with occupation groups across departments affect existing employment conditions? 

CH: I don’t think you will see it going backwards. You want to bring people up to a similar level to other people who might be doing better than them for doing comparable work. 

 You talked about greater mobility across the public service – could this lead to a decline in specialist knowledge?  

CH: It is one of the things we talked about quite a lot at Cabinet. There is a need to bring people of a sector into government leadership of that sector. We would never want to stop that from happening, so yes we expect departments and agencies to be developing specialist expertise where they need that to do their jobs effectively. 

 Another aspect of the reforms is getting local and central government working more closely together. What would you say to those in local government who may perceive this as some kind of takeover by central government?  

CH: It’s about making sure central government is a better partner with local government. Feedback we’ve had from local government is that they can find central government quite frustrating. They deal with a variety of different agencies who don’t always connect up in their work with local government. So it’s certainly not about taking over.

 What difference will physically locating more agencies together in the regions make?   

CH: That’s going to happen over time, but as leases expire bringing people under one roof where they can provide a more joined-up public service, I think there are real opportunities there.

 How closely do you see agencies working with NGOs at a local level?    

CH: A lot of NGOs are already delivering frontline public services and the arrangements can be pretty variable. Some NGOs will be dealing with different government agencies to deliver services that are quite closely connected. If we can make that process more seamless for them, we can free them up to focus on delivering the service rather than having to work with different parts of government. 

 Once different sectors are working more closely together could it lead to job losses?    

CH: No, numbers in the public sector have been relatively stable. What the government is aiming to see is less reliance on casualised workers and more building of internal capability.

 Are there any other messages you have for public servants right now?   

CH: Yes we see the importance of a robust politically neutral public service that provides free and frank advice to the government of the day. The other point is that political neutrality doesn’t mean public servants stop being active citizens. I think the opposite is true. If you are a public servant then you have a responsibility to be civically active.

Also in this issue:


President's Message

TĒNĀ KOUTOU E TE IWI O TE PSA

Read the full post

Vote 2019 NZ!

Vote 2019 is your chance to help shape the future of your community, according to PSA Vice-President and Auckland Council delegate Benedict Ferguson.

Read the full post

Vote for healthy communities

That’s why in 2019 we urge you to vote for DHB candidates who support four priorities which are crucial for our workers in district health boards, and for all of us who may need health services now or in the future:

Read the full post

Let's Bring This Home

But despite these hard fought victories the income and hours of support workers remain insecure – forcing many to leave the jobs they love.

Read the full post

Te Ao Tūmatanui: Strengthening the Māori Crown relationship

It includes expectations public service leaders work in partnership with Māori to deliver services that work for Māori, and develop a workforce that reflects the community it serves.

Read the full post

PSA says reforms a ‘significant step forward’

While the Government’s plan for public service reform does not reverse many of the neo-liberal elements of the State Sector Act it still represents a significant step forward. The reforms will provide better mechanisms to enable cross agency work and help break down silos in government.

Read the full post

Equal pay for all

Equal Pay BW3 We’re pushing for equal pay across our union with the launch of new claims in recent months.

Read the full post

Suffrage Day: ‘Our members are worth 100% and shouldn’t have to rattle buckets to get it’

“As a school social worker I’m responsible for more than 600 kids and I earn about the same amount as I did twenty years ago working in a bank.”

Read the full post

Mind the gap! Taking action on gender pay

Gender Pay BW2 Statistics NZ data shows a 9.3% difference in the median hourly earnings of men and women in 2018 - a significant improvement on the 16.2% difference in 1998, but largely unchanged from 2017.

Read the full post